On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:27 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:19:40 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Sean Carroll: >>>> >>>> So Isaac Newton came up with the rules of classical mechanics in the >>>> 1600s, but it wasn't until Laplace around the year 1800 that this >>>> implication of classical mechanics was realized. >>>> It's a clockwork universe. That the way classical mechanics works is >>>> if you tell me the state of a system right now at one moment by which in >>>> classical mechanics you would mean the position and the velocity of every >>>> part, and you knew the laws of physics and you had arbitrarily large >>>> computational capacity, >>>> Laplace said of vast intelligence okay then to that vast intelligence >>>> the past and future would be as determined and known as the present was >>>> because that's the clockwork universe is deterministic everything is fixed >>>> once you know the present moment. >>>> >>>> >>> *> But Laplace was wrong in one very important respect. One can never >>> know the exact position and momentum of any particle, let alone the entire >>> universe. There are no perfect measurements! Further, the situation is >>> further aggravated by the Uncertainty Principle. In sum, using classical >>> mechanics the future is NOT determined by its present, imprecise >>> configuration. Not only is Laplace mistaken, but Carroll as well, who >>> should know better. AG * >>> >> >> Oh for christ sake! That remark is as stupid as your crap about the >> flying saucer people in New Mexico. Do you really think Sean Carroll, a >> professor of physics at one of the best universities in the world, >> doesn't know that?! >> >> John K Clark >> > > *> Before you shoot your mouth off, read what I wrote in response to > Brent. Sean DOES know better, but he deliberately twisted Laplace's view to > fit his foolish agenda. Not very honest. As for flying saucers, they're > really much more probable than* [...] > You sir are an ass. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv34aJLBSnxUTzoi1%2Bt%3DmtvR6M47UTxA_K3Q8Vta8nkCpg%40mail.gmail.com.
