> On 5 Oct 2019, at 01:22, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/4/2019 8:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Sure it's "local" in Hilbert space. But that's not what is violated in >>> tests of Bell's inequality. >> >> No, but what is violated in Bell’s inequality is the idea that the state in >> Hilbert space describe a physical reality, > > In another post you just expounded at length on why "reality" is not well > defined and shouldn't be referred to .
I guess I was talking of “Reality”. The basic ontology. It is not well defined, but it can be the subject of study, in theology/metaphysics. > >> when it describes only the relative first person plural sharable map of the >> computations/histories that they can access to, personally. > > No. That, in the MWI is merely the projection onto one subspace, I agree. > the subspace in which the observers and instruments all register a particular > measurement result. The state in Hilbert space has projections on other > subspaces in which other results are seen. This idea of the state in Hilbert > space is essential to MWI. You can't deny Hilbert space and keep MWI. I have not done that. All projections are taken into account in the MWI. My only point is that there is no FTL influence when we abandon the collapse postulate, *and* that there are FTL influence (despite no signalling) when we introduce the collapse postulate, and don’t throw away all possibility of physical realism. Bruno > >> See my recent post to Bruce. > > I did, and answered it too. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/298d8f55-2896-d2de-5e5f-27c206d7cdbb%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/518B0F00-305A-4E56-94B4-BD0E569EB61C%40ulb.ac.be.
