> On 22 Oct 2019, at 20:42, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 12:18:45 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > That's such a silly argument. This only proves there are interactions between > consciousnesses. > > On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:25:04 UTC+3, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > I think Samuel Johnson had a good reply to Bishop Berkeley on refuting > idealism, "If I kick this rock thusly," which Johnson did, "It then kicks > back." This is not a complete proof, but it works well enough FAPP. > > > It is not silly. It is empirical. If you are interested in some sort of firm > "mathy" type of proof, then I would suggest the burden is more upon you to > prove your case that idealism is true. I have no particular interest in the > subject to begin with, so I put the ball in your court. Prove your case. > > LC > > > > Empiricism cannot say whether it's (all) matter, consciousness, or numbers.
That’s correct, or at least consistent with Digital Mechanism. > > What makes the latter two dismissible is they do not explain what we know of > our own consciousness - that it is finite in time and bounded in space. That is incorrect. Only Mechanism explains consciousness (physicalism has failed since 1500 years, as all philosophers of mind agree on, and explain, and then with Mechanism, Physicalism must fail, … if you grasp the UD Argument). Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5742eb5d-6726-4305-81e8-5b86dbb74095%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5742eb5d-6726-4305-81e8-5b86dbb74095%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/27D2A272-8B71-4D45-96CF-24392ED9ED49%40ulb.ac.be.
