On 10/25/2019 4:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Oct 2019, at 20:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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On 10/23/2019 6:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
NUMBER explains CONSCIOUSNESS which explains the origin of the physical MATTER, 
which explains the origin of the physical human body and its local 
consciousness.
Which explains NUMBER.
Which explains the human discovery and conception of the number.

Number and the conception of number are the same thing.  That's why it's an abstract concept.  There could be no number 2 without the concept of two things being similar and so in the same class. Without this conceptual relation, s() would just be marks on paper.

Brent

A scientific theory requires some assumptions/postulates/axioms, and all 
scientists assume the numbers with addition and multiplication (or something 
Turing equivalent). We cannot explain the number with anything less than a 
universal machinery. It happens that the natural numbers with + and * provides 
a simple universal machinery, and with computationalism, all the rest must be 
deduce from it (if the goal is to get a theory which handles both matter and 
consciousness).

Bruno


Brent

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