> On 25 Oct 2019, at 23:58, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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> On 10/25/2019 5:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>> The genuine problem is that if consciousness is produce by a digital 
>> mechanism, then there is an infinity of mechanism which produces it, and the 
>> theory of matter has to become a statistics on personal (or first person 
>> plural personal) histories (computations involving Löbian machines).
>> 
> 
> In materialism there are no infinities.  They are just Platonic pipe dreams.


In mechanism there is no infinities. The infinities are phenomenological. 
Analysis is as much part of the machine phenomenology than physics. No real 
numbers!

It is the materialist which needs infinities and a lot of magic to associate my 
consciousness to one machine in arithmetic, and not to the potential infinitely 
many which are run in the arithmetical reality (which is not an ontological 
thing!). 

With mechanism, what exist are 0, s’0), s(s(0)), ...etc. No infinite things 
there.

Bruno




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