On 10/24/2019 6:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
And this means that we do, after all, know something about the intrinsic nature of matter, over and above everything we know in knowing the equations of physics. Why? Because we know the intrinsic nature of consciousness and consciousness is a form of matter.

That is sheer non-sense. If consciousness is a form of matter, what is its mass, volume, temperature, etc. That makes non sense, intuitively, and indeed with mechanism, we do get a “simple” theory of consciousness (machine’s knowledge), and we can explain the illusion of matter from this, in a testable way.

It's a "form" in a metaphorical sense, as wetness is an attribute to water and some other liquid compounds.  It appears when the matter is sufficiently complex in it's arrangement and interactions to produce responses to its environment that are intelligent and purposeful.  That's exactly the operational criterion we use to infer consciousness in other beings.  And it implies degrees of consciousness.  Something Platonic concepts of consciousness cannot do.

Brent

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