On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:45:29 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
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> On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 07:44, Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
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>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:30:19 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Schneider
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>>> It's a common AI view, that the program (programming) of consciousness 
>>> (like what's running in your brain right now) is substrate independent.
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>>> @philipthrift
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>> What is "substrate independent"?
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> The computation is the same independently of the substrate of its 
> implementation. For example, you could run the same program on a computer 
> based on vacuum tubes or transistors, with the same output.
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> Stathis Papaioannou
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That's the case for the conventional-Platonistic definition of computing.

Not the case for computing with a material-intrinsic semantics.


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