On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:47:14 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 6:54 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> >> The computation is the same independently of the substrate of its 
>>> implementation. For example, you could run the same program on a computer 
>>> based on vacuum tubes or transistors, with the same output.
>>>
>>>> Stathis Papaioannou
>>>
>>
>> *> **That's the case for the conventional-Platonistic definition of 
>> computing. Not the case for computing with a material-intrinsic semantics.*
>>
>
> So according to "material-intrinsic semantics" the 4 that a vacuum tube 
> computer produces when it adds 2+2 is not the same 4 that a transistor 
> computer produces when it adds 2+2; and the 4 a white man gets when he adds 
> 2+2 does not mean the same thing as the 4 a black man gets when he adds 
> 2+2, and there is a male 4 when a man makes the addition and a female 4 
> when a woman does. So how can a serious person consider anything as 
> monumentally silly as a computational theory involving "material-intrinsic 
> semantics"? 
>
> John K Clark
>


If there is a program in C vs. a program in Python (vs. Java, etc.) that 
produce the same I/O, which uses the least energy? 

Or a man vs. a woman that adds. :)


Material-intrinsic semantics are a UCNC conferences topic. Check them out.
 
@philipthrift

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