> On 30 Oct 2019, at 22:42, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/30/2019 2:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 29 Oct 2019, at 21:24, John Clark <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:50 PM 'Brent Meeker' >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> > Religion starts by telling us "why". >>> >>> There is one why question religion can not answer and claims it would be >>> wicked to even ask: Why is a religious answer better than no answer at all? >> >> If a religion answers, with an air of claiming it is a definitive answer; >> then it is not a religion, but a fraud. > > So all recognized religions are frauds.
Not at all. I have no evidence that christianity was a fraud before 529. The student of Hy^patia were mostly christian and neoplatonist. After that the whole science was a fraud, as you could be sent at the stake even just claiming that the Earth was going around the Sun, like biology, in more recent time, in the USSR, where you could be sent to the Goulag if you claim the existence of chromosome (a so bourgeoise idea!). Islam seems to have been (clearly) a fraud only after 1148 or 1248 (I have different version of the history). I have gap for the history of early Islam. I have no clue that judaism, has eve been a fraud, although some orthodox can get very near. I think Maimonides has prevented judaism to fall in that theological trap. I have added sometimes the same for Taoism, but since then I have discovered that some Chinese emperor did institutionalised Taoism (despite Lao-Ze, Chuang-Ze and Lie-ze mocks in deep that very idea), and indeed sorry after this the Taoist Armies became the most feared armies in China. It is normal that the more a science is fundamental the more the tyran want to control it, and perveted out. We are living this right now in the domain of health and energy. > Only some personal philosophy that no philologist would call a religion is > not a fraud. All science becomes a fraud when perverted by special interest. They were all “fraud” in Occident, before the Renaissance. But after the renaissance, most have back to the academy, and theology just take a bit more of time, due to our tolerance of authoritarianism in that (admittedly hot) domain. Bruno > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/25aa382e-4285-39ea-1e36-72b1f1acb69d%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/25aa382e-4285-39ea-1e36-72b1f1acb69d%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/31FC2581-35FE-4431-AABA-D3F6366B8532%40ulb.ac.be.
