> On 31 Oct 2019, at 14:55, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 9:00 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > I have no evidence that christianity was a fraud before 529. > > So you believe Jesus was the son of God, that God sent His only son to Earth > so humans could torture him to death because that was the only way God could > forgive them for eating an apple? You believe Jesus could turn water into > wine and rose from the dead? I think Bigfoot and flying saucer men in New > Mexico is far more likely.
Amazingly, I have not found any evidence that the early christians, among the educated one, ever believe in such fairy tales. > > > I have no clue that judaism, has eve been a fraud, > > So you believe in a talking snake, Noah's Ark, and God creating the universe > in 4004 BC in just 6 days? Nope. I think that the early educated christians were neoplatonist, and they were quickly fighting against the radicals who claimed that the legend of Jesus should be taken literally. The legend of Jesus seems to come from Egypt, and was used as a parabola by Jesus (jewish and Israelite) probably to convey a bit of judaism and greek theology to the people. It is hard to be sure of anything, by lack of documents, and also because we are still in the era of the institutionalised religion, which are basically all fraudulent, with diverse degree of fraud. A similar problem appeared clearly with Islam, when Al ghazals win his debate with Averroes in 1148/1248. Institutionliased religion is to theology what astrology is to astronomy. Yet, wiithout astrology, astronomy would not have appeared, or more slowly, as the astrological were the first to observe the planet. They were just interpreting the data a bit naively, but so we are, like with the naive idea of a some real matter out there, for example (assuming mechanism, this is about as naïve than astrology). Bruno > > John K Clark > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1S6GNM21ce3R7rfd_4PZMFJNWKV53c6HrfAefnPrnumg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1S6GNM21ce3R7rfd_4PZMFJNWKV53c6HrfAefnPrnumg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/57869CF7-757A-41CA-9A0A-EDB76ECE5380%40ulb.ac.be.
