On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 12:42:40 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > >> You don't see a problem with a theory that predicts a clock which stops >> as seen by an outside observer, when the observer using the clock, which >> measures proper time, must see it moving forward? AG >> >> >> No. Why should it be a problem? You're watching the clock approach the >> event horizon and the photons from it come further and further apart until >> you have to wait seconds between photons, and then hours, and then days, >> and years...why because they have to travel thru more spacetime. If it's a >> rotating black hole, as most of them will be, each photon will have to >> orbit many times on it's way out. >> >> Brent >> > > If clock which is fixed some distance from the EH, and the BH isn't > rotating, why must the photons traveling to the fixed observer have to > travel progressively longer times? AG >
Keep in mind that all this (deducing what happens in physical reality from the mathematics) all depends on what mathematics one begins with. Starting instead with a LQG-type mathematics, one might have a bouncing clock that slows until it bounces - going backwards in time. *Crossing the event horizon with Loop Quantum Gravity* *Loosely speaking, the full phenomenon is analogous to the bouncing of a ball. A ball falls to the ground, bounces, and then moves up. The upward motion after the bounce is the time-reversed version of the falling ball. Similarly, a black hole “bounces” and emerges as its time-reversed version—the definition of a white hole.* https://resonancescience.org/crossing-the-event-horizon-with-loop-quantum-gravity/ @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e609d5b9-4356-47d2-b16f-088912a6f16b%40googlegroups.com.

