> On 15 Nov 2019, at 01:23, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 5:20:59 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 4:25:16 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > The problem with physics is physicists ! Yeah, that's my conclusion after > many years of studying, arguing and reading. Many, perhaps most, attribute > ontological character to what is epistemological; namely the wf. This leads > to all kinds of conceptual errors, and ridiculous models and conjectures -- > such as MW, particles being in two positions at the same time, radiioactive > sources that are simultanously decayed and undecayed, and so forth. The wf > gives us information about the state of a system and nothing more. Sorry to > disappoint. AG > > As I see it the wave function is epistemological on Mondays, Wednesdays and > Fridays, but ontological on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. On Shabbat it is > neither. > > LC > > On the days the wf is ontological, what does it look like? AG
Seen by whom? God? Or a creature itself described by the wave? Even this is not clear without some theory of how the observer’s mind relate to 3p descriptible notions. In QM, and in arithmetic, a part of a system can be much more complex than the system itself. Bruno > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3ebb0e75-78e8-4904-8f78-01a540e4b3c0%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3ebb0e75-78e8-4904-8f78-01a540e4b3c0%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/05786AF8-937A-46ED-B5A8-558DC784D8DC%40ulb.ac.be.
