On 1/29/2020 12:32 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:


On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 7:31:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:



    On 1/28/2020 3:31 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:



    Maybe. But the failure I wrote of applies if consciousness occurs
    only in brains (or even in just human brains) and IIT only
    applies to that. Unless IIT is modified as Mørch proposes, but
    then IIT would not be the same IIT that Aaronson is writing about
    6 years ago.

    It would still fail though, because Scott's counter example
    includes things made of matter:
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    //In my view, IIT fails to solve the Pretty-Hard Problem because
    it unavoidably predicts vast amounts of consciousness in physical
    systems that no sane person would regard as particularly
    “conscious” at all: indeed, systems that do nothing but apply a
    low-density parity-check code, or other simple transformations of
    their input data.  Moreover, IIT predicts not merely that these
    systems are “slightly” conscious (which would be fine), but that
    they can be unboundedly more conscious than humans are./

    Brent



Hedda negates the /unboundedly more./

How?  And does she provide a bound relative to human consciousness?

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Even rocks have information-processing properties.

The rock that computes everything?

Brent


Quartz crystal computer rocks
"Irrational Computing" has interlinked a series of untreated crystals and minerals to create a primitive signal processor.
https://www.cnet.com/news/quartz-crystal-computer-rocks/
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@philipthrift
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