On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:09:22 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:51:16 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 4:40:03 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:34 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/30/2020 9:59 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> Therefore, panpsychism does not require that such ordinary objects >>>> [like tables, chairs and *rocks*] have mentality >>>> >>>> >>>> Right. Having solved the problem of where mentality comes from by >>>> simply asserting it's inherent in everything, then panspychism was faced >>>> with the problem that ordinary objects were obviously not conscious >>>> (Aaronson's common sense critereon). So this solved that asserting that >>>> only special arrangements of fundamental particles are conscious. >>>> Panpsychists haven't been able to say exactly which arrangements are >>>> conscious but some people are betting in brains. >>>> >>> >>> In other words, panpsychism, like IIT, is load of ad hoc drivel. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >> >> True for those who never dropped LSD. AG >> > > > Excellent point. > > > via Twitter friend of mine - https://twitter.com/PeterSjostedtH > <https://twitter.com/PeterSjostedtH?> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8PSevhd_M > > Philosopher of mind Peter Sjöstedt-H discusses the hidden impact > psychedelics have had on philosophy and asks if such extreme, altered modes > of mind could help give us answers to some of the big questions facing the > philosophers and scientists of today. Peter is an Anglo-Scandinavian > philosopher of mind and author. He lives in West Cornwall and is engaged in > his PhD with the University of Exeter, where he also teaches philosophy > modules and writing skills. Peter is the inspiration behind the inhuman > philosopher Marvel Superhero, Karnak. This talk was given at a TEDx event > using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local > community. > > > > https://filtermag.org/what-psychedelics-reveal-about-the-nature-of-consciousness/ > > He is a proponent of panpsychism—the theory that everything material has > an element of consciousness. His work even helped to inspire > <http://orbitaloperations.cmail19.com/t/ViewEmail/d/CFAA751FF7B9CE84/52D5471E09CF417CF6A1C87C670A6B9F> > the > new form of Marvel’s “inhuman philosopher” character, Karmak. > > @philipthrift >
It's actually visible when you're high enough, and doesn't appear to manifest will. Of course, the naysayers will say with great confidence (and no authority) that it's an hallucination. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/30721d1b-b7ae-4657-82d3-405c1e64b305%40googlegroups.com.
