On 2/21/2020 4:19 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 11:11 AM smitra <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 16-02-2020 06:34, Bruce Kellett wrote:
    >
    > The probabilistic interpretation of QM arose in a single-world,
    > collapse, model. Attempting to graft probability on to
    many-worlds is
    > a failure, as my arguments against Everett show. If the data for any
    > sequence of trials are independent of the amplitudes, then some
    ad hoc
    > probability interpretation of the amplitudes is not going to affect
    > the data. But the data is what we use to infer that Born rule
    > probabilities are what we observe. This is a single-world result.
    >
    > Bruce

    It's only a failure when attempting to describe the state in the
    multiverse in that particular way where you can argue that the
    amplitudes don't matter. It's not an argument against the multiverse
    idea, as whether or not you have a large number of copies should not
    affect the statistical outcome observed in any experiment.


No. And it has not been suggested that it will. But that is just to take a single-world approach: statistics work fine in each branch of the multiverse (each world), but the concepts of probability and the Born rule break down when every result is obtained in experiments because the data obtained in each world are independent of the amplitudes of the original state.

This objection seems to rest on the idea that the set of sequences (across all the worlds) cannot be regarded as an ensemble from which one is picked by self-location.  Otherwise applying probability theory to the ensemble recovers the one-world statistics.  Right? Of course you can say there really is no ensemble (that is accessible to anyone), but that's true of the hypothetical ensembles invoked in statistics all the time.

Brent


Bruce
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