On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:34 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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> On 3/4/2020 6:18 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
>
> But one cannot just assume the Born rule in this case -- one has to use
> the data to verify the probabilistic predictions. And the observers on the
> majority of branches will get data that disconfirms the Born rule. (For any
> value of the probability, the proportion of observers who get data
> consistent with this value decreases as N becomes large.)
>
>
> No, that's where I was disagreeing with you.  If "consistent with" is
> defined as being within some given fraction, the proportion increases as N
> becomes large.  If the probability of the an even is p and q=1-p then the
> proportion of events in N trials within one std-deviation of p approaches
> 1/e and N->oo and the width of the one std-deviation range goes down at
> 1/sqrt(N).  So the distribution of values over the ensemble of observers
> becomes concentrated near the expected value, i.e. is consistent with that
> value.
>


But what is the expected value? Does that not depend on the inferred
probabilities? The probability p is not a given -- it can only be inferred
from the observed data. And different observers will infer different values
of p. Then certainly, each observer will think that the distribution of
values over the 2^N observers will be concentrated near his inferred value
of p. The trouble is that that this is true whatever value of p the
observer infers -- i.e., for whatever branch of the ensemble he is on.

Bruce

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