On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 09:46:34AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > The greater problem is that any idea of probability founders when all outcomes > occur for any measurement. Or have you not followed the arguments I have been > making that shows this to be the case? >
I must admit I haven't followed the arguments either - admittedly, I haven't read your cited material. ISTM - probability is all about what an observer observes. Since the observer cannot see all outcomes, an objection based on all outcomes occurring seems moot to me. You may counter that the assumption that an observer cannot see all outcomes is an extra thing "put in by hand", and you would be right, of course. It is not part of the Schroedinger equation. But I would strongly suspect that this assumption will be a natural outcome of a proper theory of consciousness, if/when we have one. Indeed, I highlight it in my book with the name "PROJECTION postulate". This is, of course, at the heart of the 1p/3p distinction - and of course the classic taunts and misunderstandings between BM and JC (1p-3p confusion). Incidently, I've started reading Colin Hales's "Revolution of Scientific Structure", a fellow Melburnian and member of this list. The interesting proposition about this is Colin is proposing we're on the verge of a Kuhnian paradigm shift in relation to the role of the observer in science, and the that this sort of misunderstanding is a classic symptom of such a shift. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders hpco...@hpcoders.com.au http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20200304233927.GE7315%40zen.