> On 28 Apr 2020, at 17:00, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
> What logically coherent, empirically evident, experientially valid, answer 
> can science or the WAMP


What is WAMP?



> give to the questions of aseity, causality, origin, meaning, morals, eschaton?


Science is not something answering any question, except through testable 
hypothesis, which scientist takes as being always potentially refuted.

Now, if you take the mechanist hypothesis into account, we can say that 
Aristotle natural cause does not make sense, and eventually we are back to 
Plato and Pythagorus. What exists are the numbers, and all the causalities are 
explained by modalities of the shape [](p -> q), with many intensional variant 
of Gödel’s provability predicate for the box “[]”.

The mode []p & <>p with p partially computable (sigma_1) gives quantum logic. I 
found this (and the many histories interpretation) before knowing that the 
physicists were already there, so I take this as a confirmation of mechanism 
(not a proof of course). Physicalism is already refuted by Nature, when we take 
consciousness in the picture (which is why serious cmaterialist try to 
eliminate consciousness in a way or another). With mechanism, it only the 
Aristotelian primary matter (energy, time, space, etc.) which is eliminated, 
but whose appearance are completely explained in arithmetic with mechanism, up 
to testability.

Bruno








> Philip Benjamin
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality
>  
> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 11:20:37 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>  
> On 27 Apr 2020, at 14:36, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>  
> 
> 
> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 4:14:45 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> > On 23 Apr 2020, at 06:53, Samiya Illias <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
> > 
> > If the All-Mighty God accepts me in The Kingdom of The Hereafter, I trust 
> > He will explain to us our roles, responsibilities, perks and privileges. 
> 
> OK.
>  
> No it is not OK. Religion is based on the idea that truth is handed down by a 
> divine authority.
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