> On 4 May 2020, at 23:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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> On 5/4/2020 4:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> I might disagree. Especially if you keep in mind that theology ws born as a 
>> science, before becoming an institionised oppression system, when separated 
>> from science for that purpose. 
> 
> Yes, it was born as explanation for natural phenomena in terms of human 
> emotions, because human emotion was directly experienced and seemed to need 
> no explanation.  So when a storm was explained as the sky became angry that 
> seemed easy to believe and one had only to discern why the sky was angry. 

That looks more the poplar religion, the myth, the mythologies, but that is 
were Plato begun to depart from, accepting only the rational emotion as a way 
to proceed.



> The priest or chief or your mother explained it was because you didn't 
> sacrifice a goat to him, or you disobeyed a rule, or you didn't eat your 
> spinach. 

Yes, but the greek theologian knew better, even if from times to times some 
fall again in the superstition, or when some tried to attract the christians 
who were more and more numerous. Plotinus fought against this, but Proclus was 
open to some form of theurgy. I am with Alan watts on this: if the rest can 
blink, and does not take itself too much seriously ..; why not, as many have an 
impulse toward some community and children love Fairy Tale. Yet, at some point, 
we have to abandon the fairy tales in our fundamental research, and that is 
what (Neo)platonism did. 



> But there were many phenomena.  Monotheism simplified the system and provided 
> one-stop shopping...as soon as a few wars and inquisitions settled which one 
> God was the really real one.

 Don’t remember the zoroastrien, nor the jews, to have impose monotheism to 
anyone. Nor the christian for the first five centuries. Inquisition, like 
radical islamism is just the use of institutionalise religion (in other word 
bs) to steal the money and the work of the people, and should not even be 
classified in religion, no more that Lyssenko genetics should be consider as 
part of biology.

To get rid of the superstition in religion, and of all fundamentalism and use 
of violence, we have to let theology/metaphsyics come back in science. Science 
is just a right: the right to be wrong and to change pur minds, in any domain.

Bruno 



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