On 5/3/2020 8:14 PM, smitra wrote:
On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote:
The SSH
https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247
still lies in the "information turn" that plays in physics today.(IT
FROM QUBIT, etc.) - a rejection pf materialism in favor of idealism.
It is more interesting to me to stick to the vocabulary of
materialist* physics - particles, fields, interactions, forces - but
to approach CONSCIOUSNESS AS PURELY MATERIAL - adding a new
force/interaction/particle/field as needed (like a sixth force/field).
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Field_theories_of_consciousness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness
etc.
* or physicalist
@philipthrift
Physicalism is a dead end. The hard problem of consciousness and other
philosophical problems can be considered to be no-go theorems against
physicalism. Abandoning physicalism solves all these problems in one
fell swoop.
Really? What are 'all these problems that are solved'? Does it explain
why a blow to the head renders you unconscious? Does it explain how
anesthesia works? Does it explain epilepsy? Synasthesia? Drunkeness?
Does it explain the evocation of memories by electrostimulation of the
brain? Dementia? Childhood amnesia?
Or is it just smug mysticism that physics hasn't explained X, so by
rejecting physics I'm entitled to any explanation I want about X.
Brent
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