On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote:
The SSH

      https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247

still lies in the "information turn" that plays in physics today.(IT
FROM QUBIT, etc.) - a rejection pf materialism in favor of idealism.

It is more interesting to me to stick to the vocabulary of
materialist* physics - particles, fields, interactions, forces - but
to approach CONSCIOUSNESS AS PURELY MATERIAL - adding a new
force/interaction/particle/field as needed (like a sixth force/field).

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Field_theories_of_consciousness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness

etc.

* or physicalist

@philipthrift

Physicalism is a dead end. The hard problem of consciousness and other philosophical problems can be considered to be no-go theorems against physicalism. Abandoning physicalism solves all these problems in one fell swoop. But that also opens the door to wrong theories as people engaging with non-physicalist theories can too easily advertise their pet theories because they don't suffer from all the diseases physicalist theories suffer from. The bar has to be set higher, I would like to see a derivation of the laws of physics, not some vague argument that it is consistent with QM and unitary evolution but a lot more detail than just that.

Saibal

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