On 7/1/2020 6:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:54, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
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On 6/30/2020 5:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jun 2020, at 19:36, Jason Resch <[email protected]
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Brent,
It looks like you were right about the importance of including
environmental data in a brain simulation. Markus Muller uses
algorithmic information theory to argue that whether or not a
simulated brain is a zombie or not, depends on a large extent to
the degree in which environmental information is incorporated into
the simulation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1699&v=wsbNT3XEdsA&t=51m40s
(See 51 minutes 40 seconds in)
He does not say much there, and taken literally, this is already
what the antic dream argument put in doubt.
If we take the arithmetical first person indeterminacy into account,
it is not so much the environment which needs to be taken into
account, but the collection of all consistent continuation,
structured by the material modes of self-reference.
Consistent continuation of what? That's the question.
Consistent continuation of you (the first person knower). It is what
is axiomatised completely (at the propositional level) by:
[]p & <>t & p (p is provable, consistent and true).
How can pick out a person and define the unity of experience of that person?
Brent
Intutively, that entails many aberrant experience/dream, but the
constraints of self-reference leads to a sort of
Everett-Griffith-Omnès-Hartle-Gell’man sort of quantum logic: a
statistically interfering bunch of histories “making relative sense”.
Bruno
Brent
If not, it means that the substitution level has chosen correctly,
or that the “brain” was not well copied… (or that we use a non
mechanist theory of mind).
Bruno
Jason
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