On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 10:52:09 PM UTC+2 Brent wrote:

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> On 7/30/2020 1:02 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
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> Refute this Telmo- 
> https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
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> https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext
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> One viewer here indicated this was not a study-but it is a study indeed 
> concluding the benefits of Hydro. 
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> Now what do I think? If it works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't. 
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> That's just false.  Some things work on some infections in some people 
> using some protocols of care.  
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Agreed. Ongoing large scale international clinical trials are what they 
are. Nobody claims that they or the papers in their wake are perfect, but 
to pretend that a few tiny studies are "in need of refutation" or that the 
world's epidemiological community is orchestrating conspiracies without 
evidence like some on Twitter and on social media tend to peddle, is naive 
or evidence of the effectivity of disinformation, *not evidence of 
effectivity of medication*. 

But if Telmo and/or Mitch need, they can always get in touch with their 
closest epidemiologists/docs and ask for the data and emails, and inform 
the coordinating committee of their findings and worries, citing who they 
wish. While data of the majority of ongoing trials and appropriate 
epidemiological discourse may not be accessible on the net or published 
("ongoing" being somewhat relevant...), it isn't classified or anything. PGC
 

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