Hi Benjamin,? Historically, a modern Turkish emigree to Germany (his dad arrived as a Guest worker in the old West Germany) grew up to be a historian; and pondered how did the Nazis get the rest of the Germans to cooperate in the slaughter? The answer he uncovered through records, was that the nazis would cut off their social programs to the families of anyone who protested. Thus, the German retirement funding, free medical care, or care in old age homes would be denied to the families of anyone loud enough to complain. Also, the Adolf Hitler fund was started by Krupp Steel secretly, in 1929, to ensure the control of Adolf--which to their surprise never occurred. The tail did indeed wag the dog. On the comparative superiority, the Christian west was great at combining the teachings of the Attic Greeks with the teachings of the Bible and New Testament. The Muslims did this for a while during their early centuries, but were caught up in their internal wars (Sunni-Shia) which allowed the absolutist manner of thinking we see today in the majority of Islamic culture. Form a purely religious pov, I'd change the old Christian bumper sticker from WWJD what would Jesus Do, to How did Jesus Do it, aka miracles. 15 years ago Frank Tipler did some speculation on all that, which was rather nice, at least, for this reader.
So, why no dark matter chemistry, based on axions, unless the physics of the universe forbid it? Multiverses ar ok with me, as long as they are true. An infinite universe is also fine with me, because what am I do do if I don't approve, text my Congress-creature? Right now the surrounding cosmos seems dead am empty, and unless improved telescopes, or a CERN thing, it's quiet, except for stellar phenomena and quite sterile. Maybe there is dark matter life out there, based on candidate particles for dark matter? -----Original Message----- From: Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2020 10:25 am Subject: RE: FW: A Lamentation on Thanksgiving 2020 #yiv1604805953 #yiv1604805953 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1604805953 #yiv1604805953 p.yiv1604805953MsoNormal, #yiv1604805953 li.yiv1604805953MsoNormal, #yiv1604805953 div.yiv1604805953MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1604805953 a:link, #yiv1604805953 span.yiv1604805953MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1604805953 span.yiv1604805953EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv1604805953 .yiv1604805953MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv1604805953 div.yiv1604805953WordSection1 {}#yiv1604805953 [Philip Benjamin] On the usual civilized pagan notion that “None of these ideas have any meaning to those of us who think in a primarily scientific way,” it must be noted that SOCIALIST Germany under SOCIALIST Hitler was the most advanced in science and technology during the early 20- th Century. That to certain extent was true also of Marxist Stalin’s Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics, and of Fascist ( Business-Politics-merger) Mussolini’s Italy. Political establishments of ALL nations today are not very far from such ONE PARTY dictatorships. Washington Establishment is the most PAGAN of all—occultism (mysticism, meditations etc.) fortunetelling, tarot card reading, necromancy, so on and so forth are commonlyand seriously practiced by the rich and famous and nearly ALL politicians. Non-pagan Civilizations with individual, Augustinian awakened consciousness, not the kundalini/reptilian pagan ones with un-awakened consciousness, produced MODERN science and technology, not vice versa. Those pagans who invoke the goddess of science and make exclusive claims of being scientific do not recognize that fact. Science is finite, incomplete, imprecise and often inconsistent. How can any science be complete with 95% of matter in the universe still unknown?How can science accept dark-matter physics, but not dark-matter chemistry? How can science deal with the questions of aseity, causality, origin, meanings, morals, telos, ideas of eschaton etc.? One famous scientist talked about oxy-moronic “self-creation” contrary to all Laws of Logic. Another discusses the physics of Hitlers still fighting Socialist wars in a parallel universes, without any reference to “parallel” chemistry!! A multiverse Universe will need Multiverse physics and chemistry and biology etc. Learned foolishness of present science and technology will not answer the fundamental or ultimate questions of life and consciousness. Science without humility is non-science. Philip Benjamin From: [email protected] <[email protected]>On Behalf Of Lawrence Crowell Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:23 PM To: Everything List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FW: A Lamentation on Thanksgiving 2020 Dumb white trash America has spoken! ……. This has also assumed the dimension of a cult, a personality cult of t'Rump where there is an identification of being a real American with supporting t'Rump. It echoes the "Hitler is Deutschland, Deutschland is Hitler" slogan during the Third Reich. None of these ideas have any meaning to those of us who think in a primarily scientific way. Comments about Augustine or other ancient theologians are only of interest in some historical sense. You do not hear this kind of discussion in a scientific meeting. It is otiose and anachronistic stuff that frankly all looks a bit like nonsense. …….. LC On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:17:31 PM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote: [email protected] [email protected] Subject: A Lamentation on Thanksgiving 2020 A Lamentation on Thanksgiving 2020 Philip Benjamin Progressivewickedness brings mourning, disgrace, contempt Awakened consciousness is transcendent, from death to life Great Awakenings Twice, with the third in order for respite American-Puritanism-ousting by progressive paganism is rife Non-pagan regenerated hearts and minds are rare and sparse Imago Dei defunct as humanist self is inflated and enthroned Sudden destruction, a historical imperative, is not off the pace Man-o-man! How is the gold become dim, most fine gold changed! Philip Benjamin __._,_.___ Posted by: Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email [email protected]. 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