On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 3:12:09 PM UTC+1 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 27 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 7:00:54 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > >> Socialism is merely a path or should be, and not a goal. Socialism was >> indeed the primary method by the nazis for social control, for those not >> relegated to the camps. Later, the Soviets resorted to this softer >> approach. The Nazis did go big for crony capitalism of which we see >> plaguing the US today. That Christianity should be blamed for expanding >> slavery amongst the New World is a fair accusation. That the fact that >> Islam as a society produced and equally large slave trade, beforehand, and >> at the same time, and afterwards, is being ignored for ideological reasons, >> obviously. >> https://www.dw.com/en/east-africas-forgotten-slave-trade/a-50126759 >> >> At this point Eugene Debs is not on the same socialist road and Brother >> Bernie, nor, Kamala, nor, AOC, nor, congresswoman Rashida, and so forth, >> Plus. like the Deutschlanders the deutschlanders of the period, also do >> what democrats and republican representatives now do, represent the very >> wealthy. >> Republicans- (note, the zero in the column indicates the other side) >> >> https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&view=hi >> > > To think that Biden and Harris are radical socialists is absurd. Biden has > been a centrist democrat his entire political career and Harris has been a > pretty centrist prosecutor. To think these two are even in line with Bernie > Sanders is wrong, > > > Right. > Er … I mean OK! > > > > where Sanders is really about in line is a center-left political party in > Europe. > > > I would say that even for an European, Sanders is very leftist, but of > course, we can always find more extreme extremists. > Right. Depends really on the Europeans. Check out Yanis Varoufakis. He makes Sanders look center-left. > > > > I think this is a relative thing, where as the American political center > has gone further right what was once the center is now seen as radical > left. A GOP congressman a few years back even said Reagan was too > socialist. Given the trajectory of things do not be surprised if next > decade t'Rump is called to leftist by the right wing. > > > > I like to joke that Trump is at the extreme left. You need this to leak so > much the boots of Putin, and envy Kim-Young-Un… > > I certainly do not think that Trump is a republican at all. He is a > criminal con artist escaping forward, and all his “opinion” seems just > opportunistic. He is simply not a politician, nor a business man, but a con > salesman, I would say. He is very dangerous, because he does not care about > anything but himself. He seems to me to be a narcissist, perhaps even a > psychopath. That the GOP continues to fear him after he loss the election > is a bit of a mystery to me… > > Exercice: show that if Trump is Turing Universal and arithmetically > soundl, then he cannot be Löbian. Hint: remind that I defined Intelligence > is a large sense of being consistent (<>t, ~[]f). This should be an easy > exercise if you remember the simplest theory of intelligence that I gave > some years ago. > A Löbian would not be able to believe their own consistency/Intelligence (<>t, ~[]f). For if they did, they would believe []f -> f, leading to contradiction. Therefore asserting his intelligence/consistency, which Trump constantly does, makes him inconsistent and not Löbian. I don’t know. Maybe Lawrence or the others can find a clearer/better way of doing this. I’m not satisfied somehow but unfortunately have only 5 minutes… Being inconsistent he can prove anything including his own consistency. That’s like trusting the truthfulness of a man who claims he never lies and says things like “Am I wrong? Am I wrong?”. As for Brent's mystery of why that 40% worships Trump like a demi-god: Social media profiting off of high levels of engagement that right wing, conspiracy theory, disinformation peddlers take advantage off (probably since Palin, I mean McCain wasn't like that + still consistent republican), which is a ubiquitous huge digital advertising/ money-making click machine + liberals' inability to raise incomes for the folks that don't earn enough and a million other things, e.g. education, civic engagement, pandemic...PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/aa14386e-9476-44c7-99e4-5f7734d7980en%40googlegroups.com.
