On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:42:26 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:29 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *> At around 5:15 he makes the fundamental error IMO in describing >>> superposition; namely, that a system can be in different states >>> simultaneously. It's the myth about QM which is hard to shake. Why not just >>> assume an ignorance interpretation of superposition; namely, there are >>> several states a system could be in, often with different probabilities, >>> but we don't know which one?* >>> >> >> We've been over this before, more than once, more than twice, much more! >> I hope you don't think you're the first to come up with the Idea that it's >> all simply a case of our ignorance, >> > > Not my claim. Just your distorting BS. I don't deny interference. AG > > >> that argument was semi-respectable when weird quantum effects first >> started to show up around the turn of the 20th century but has not been >> respected among physicists for more than 50 years. Your explanation is >> rejected because it just doesn't jive with experimental observations. >> > > Try being specific, and stop the hydroelectric BS. In the double slit > e.g., we can apply DeBroglie's insight, namely, that the entity detected at > the screen behaves as a wave before detection, and thus goes through both > slits and interferes with itself. AG > > >> There is simply no doubt about it, Bell's Inequality is violated. >> > > What has the ignorance interpretation of superposition before measurement > has to do with Bell's Inequality? As long as I don't deny the existence of > interference, there is nothing wrong with what I claim. And it does solve > Schroedinger's cat paradox. AG > What you don't seem to get is that the mathematics of QM doesn't change if you adopt the ignorance interpretation of superposition. Since the mathematics doesn't change, never does the results of the mathematics. The only value of thinking a system can be in multiple different states simultaneously is to add a magical unnecessary addition to the theory. It doesn't effect Bell results or anything else. AG > > You may not like the way the universe is run, but the universe cares even >> less if you like it or not, that's just the way things are. >> >> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b330d18d-d19e-47c6-b7ba-88082a385b8an%40googlegroups.com.
