[Philip Benjamin]
Va-alaikum As-salaam. In all ancient languages, Sanskrit, Hebrew, Latin, Greek
and even in English, these terms have their etymological roots in "breeze" and
"breath". The ancients observed that when the last breath was gone, the body
was dead, So, they figured out that something invisibly "wind-like" is the
life- principle. Had they known about dark-matter and its possible chemistries
they could have attributed the "soul or spirit" to the "dark twin". Bio
Dark-Matter Chemistry is indeed taboo today. Because it implies the possibility
of "light" and "dark" twin bodies co-created at the moment of conception. That
almost sounds like existence of "spirit' or "soul".
Definitions are very important here, especially when multicultural studies
are involved. English language is nourished and enriched by the Bible
(particularly the KJV). The Bible divides the world into heathen (foreign,
strange, Gentile) and non-heathen [The Redeemed of Adonai (plural) YHWH
(singular) Elohim (uni-plural)]. The word pagan (pan-Gaia-n, earthling or
earth-worshipper) is of more recent origin than KJV. Redemption in the Old
Testament and the New Testament is on the principle of "grace" in the
cancellation of the universal Death Sentence by the vicarious death of the
Sentencer as in Genesis 3:15-19 (the Protoevangelium), which you have also
referred to, as the Lamb ordained before and slain from the foundation of the
world (1Peter 1:19-20 , Revelation 13:8).
"Not He begets and not He is begotten" of the Koran 112 may be applicable
to Adonai (plural) but not the prophetic Incarnation of YHWH (singular) in the
form of the Messiah at Bethlehem. Here, Infinity1 + Infinity2 + Infinity3 = 1
Infinity. A unitary deity is a solitary, solipsistic being with no
communication with anybody other than oneself possible.
Philip Benjamin
[Samiya Illias]
"Salam alaikum"
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2020/06/draft-all-about-nafs.html Say, "He
(is) Allah, the One. Allah, the Eternal, the Absolute. Not He begets and not He
is begotten. And not is for Him equivalent any [one]." [Al-Quran 112]. And be
not like those who forgot Allah, so He made them forget their own nafs...
[Al-Quran 59:19]
Purpose
The purpose of this study is to try understand what the nafs is, and where it
lies in the human body.
The Quran repeatedly mentions the nafs. Sins are committing injustices against
the nafs, and we are warned against making changes in the nafs. Our nafs is
removable from our body. It is in pledge. The Quran warns of the loss of the
nafs in the Hereafter, and it is described as the most depriving dispossession,
the extreme loss!
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/05/human-body-or-soul.html
The Bible and The Quran both inform us that we are made of dust:
[Bible, Genesis 3:19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou
return unto the ground, for out of it was thou taken; for dust thou art, and
unto dust shalt thou return."
[Al-Quran, ar-Rum 30:20] And among His Signs (is) that He created you from dust
then behold! You (are) human beings dispersing.
We all know that we have a body that is composed of earthly materials.
Religious people generally believe that they are a SOUL that is temporarily
staying in the body. Atheists do not believe in the existence of a SOUL.
Jews, Christians and Muslims (People of the Book) shroud and bury the body of
their dead. Hindus (Polytheists) burn many of their dead and crush the
remaining bones into dust. More on Funeral Rites in References and Further
Reading at the end of this post.
From: Philip Benjamin
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:39 AM
To: Donald Naysmith <[email protected]>; Caroline Naysmith
([email protected]) <[email protected]>
Subject: FW: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Falling Outward (was: Words,
definitions, and Many "Worlds")
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On
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Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Falling Outward (was: Words,
definitions, and Many "Worlds")
Salam alaikum
These might be of interest:
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So, I think we are saying the same thing here. Therefore the issue is, why do
we seem to be disagreeing with one another. I think I can begin to perceive an
answer when you say.
What is more rational? Dead matter having aseity or LIFE having aseity. Dead
matter cannot produce life. LIFE can produce dead matter and life.
Then this more or less equates with my view.
Some of the key points: Consciousness having aseity [being sufficient unto its
self?] given that I am seeking an explanation for what consciousness is I have
to consider if that is possible for my consciousness. Several perspectives
arise; if I have an immortal soul, perhaps but I cannot tell this until I die.
Hmmm... If you are saying that consciousness has asiety then I think I can
agree with that.
How can Impersonal Consciousness produce personal beings? A Personal Aseitous
Being is a necessary Reality.
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