On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM Philip Benjamin <[email protected]>
wrote:

 > *One has to stick with the same frame of reference in any reasonable
> argument.*
>

No, you are entirely wrong and way way behind the times. 400 years ago
Galileo found a way of converting one reference frame to another that
worked very well as long as the speeds involved we're not extremely large, a
nd when they were Einstein found a way 100 years ago that could be used to
develop an entirely consistent way of converting one reference frame into
another that also conformed with all known experimental results, and It
even worked when the reference frames were accelerating.

*< Integers and points belong to two different frames of reference.  To
> bring them into the same reference frame is a logical fallacy.*
>

Numbers have no units, therefore 10 apples and 10 oranges have one thing in
common, the integer 10. It's the same 10 in both cases. And all the
positive integers have something in common with all the negative integers,
Aleph-0. That sort of generality is the very reason mathematics is such a
useful tool and helping us figure out how the world works. If that were not
true mathematics would not be of much use or interest.
John K Clark      See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
>
> .

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