> On 21 Feb 2021, at 15:50, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic? > > [Philip Benjamin] > Eastern world was engulfed in the mysticism of the unknowable Maya, Cosmic > Egg, Yin-Yang etc., when unitary-noncommunicative- mono-theistic mysticism of > Islam conquered most of it (still meditating!). The Western world is now > engulfed in the same mysticism, when who knows what will conquer it? > Marxist-Socialist-Fascism? Islam? Anarchy? > Western science dealt with the electric, entropic physical world of > “light-matter and its chemistries” for physical phenomena so far, it is time > to deal with the physical world of “dark-matter and its chemistries” for > mental phenomena. And get out of the rut of un-knowable.
To invoke anything physical/apperant will need some highly non computationalist hypothesis in the cognitive science. As physics confirms the most startling consequences of Mechanism (many-worlds and non Boolean (quantum) logic for the Observable, I think that such an idea is premature. The Dream Argument, like the emulation argument, illustrates that observation does not help, and can be misleading, to decide what the fundamental ontology could be. After the discovery of the computer (universal Turing machine) and computations *in Arithmetic*, I think that (weak) materialism will disappear like vitalism has disappeared in biology: an unnecessary superstition. Bruno > Philip Benjamin > > From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online Saturday, February 20, > 2021 3:33 PM [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic? Serge and I exploiting mystic > fancy [and fantasy] to the full and not an ounce of dark matter in sight > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDjxTtx1FU&t=1s > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDjxTtx1FU&t=1s>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704A5A58C37688B6663C354A8829%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704A5A58C37688B6663C354A8829%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/BAD18E6F-369F-4B5B-8C69-8BF370F9A4EA%40ulb.ac.be.

