> On 23 Feb 2021, at 15:45, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Philip Benjamin [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] > fancy a mystic? > > [Philip Benjamin] Answer to Roland: > Physical Resurrection! > [Roland Cichowski] Question from Roland: > “… why the split between what you call the western world and the rest of it. > … “ > [Philip Benjamin] > For science today what candidate is more suitable than bio dark-matter > and its chemistry to incorporate resurrection or a “knowable” consciousness? > The “roughness of world history” you are referring to can be reduced to the > irreconcilable difference between the “knowable” universe of the Greek > philosophy and the “unknowable” universe (Mystic Maya) of the East. > Post-transformation Augustinian philosophy > (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine > <https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine>) is all > about a “knowable” universe especially post-resurrection. Only a “knowable > universe” can be subject to scientific analysis.
That is specifically refuted by the theology of the universal machine, which implies the existence of the false, the non believable, the non knowable, the non-observable and the insensible. Bruno > It was far easier for Rabbi Saul of Tarsus to communicate with the Athenians > (Acts 17) than the Doubting Thomas to deal with Indian mystics, though both > had difficult access to the Roman Jewish colonies and the Cochin Jewish > colony respectively. > [Philip Benjamin] > > From: Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@ > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:27 PM > To: Philip Benjamin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic? > > Philip > Rightly or wrongly I am beginning to perceive your world view, maybe. > I like the rough world history and would not disagree with much of it. > > However, why the split between what you call the western world and the rest > of it. Why recognise a roman pagan mystic and credit them with a major > alteration in human consciousness but decry the pagan background and > influences it came from? > > And in case you say that Augustine was not a mystic: > Hearing a child’s song and getting the idea that this was a message from god > to read the bible opening it to find the first thing you read, a verse by > Paul, triggers a massive change in consciousness. (Paul suffered under such a > change of consciousness was also a Pagan). I would describe the experience > they had as mystical, whether that changed them permanently for the better; > that is hard to say. Such individuals often struggle to explain what they > have experienced, may never experience it again, although it leaves its mark. > Individuals who are born with it often develop more softly under its > influence and are more accepting of the reality they live in. > > There are mystics who are born to develop a ability to experience this way. > There are mystics who manage to develop this ability and there are those > whose minds are almost blown by the sudden emergence of even a brief glance > of this type of consciousness. This is why you get terms like cosmic > consciousness, god consciousness, pure consciousness, Christ consciousness, > enlightenment. I would venture that Christ consciousness would mean to take > on this kind of experience. I.e. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ [frame of > mind]. > > This type of mystical awareness and experience is experienced across all > humanity in all times, although it can be explained in different ways and > cultural terms. It is often claimed that it is the source of all religions. > Augustine and Paul are but two examples of this and in some ways they seem to > have altered the main thrust of the teachings of Jesus a heavy karmic > responsibility indeed. > > So why the trust in Augustine’s view of things. > Roland > On 22/02/2021 1:19, Philip Benjamin wrote: > [Philip Benjamin] > Eastern world was engulfed in the mysticism of the unknowable Maya, Cosmic > Egg, Yin-Yang etc., when unitary-noncommunicative- mono-theistic mysticism of > Islam conquered most of it (still meditating!). The Western world is now > engulfed in the same mysticism, when who knows what will conquer it? > Marxist-Socialist-Fascism? Islam? Anarchy? > Western science dealt with the electric, entropic physical world of > “light-matter and its chemistries” for physical phenomena so far, it is time > to deal with the physical world of “dark-matter and its chemistries” for > mental phenomena. And get out of the rut of un-knowable. > Philip Benjamin > > From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online Saturday, February 20, > 2021 3:33 PM [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic? Serge and I exploiting mystic > fancy [and fantasy] to the full and not an ounce of dark matter in sight > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDjxTtx1FU&t=1s > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZqDjxTtx1FU%26t%3D1s&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce3d6368b95ae4d8bbae808d8d7a29447%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637496440555365678%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZfKcr1wjac2H9XbMWurI0eCfY%2F2Lte1AoQFD6qsiyvU%3D&reserved=0>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704BA826CCD9FD87EBFC482A8809%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704BA826CCD9FD87EBFC482A8809%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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