> On 28 Mar 2021, at 00:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > > The Old Fisherman's Mistake > > ROVELLI, Carlo (2021) > > Abstract > > A number of thorny issues such as the nature of time, free will, the clash of > the manifest and scientific images, the possibility of a naturalistic > foundation of morality, and perhaps even the possibility of accounting for > consciousness in naturalistic terms, seem to me to be plagued by the > conceptual confusion nourished by a single fallacy: the old fisherman's > mistake. > > http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18837/1/Pescatore.pdf > <http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18837/1/Pescatore.pdf> > > > Rovelli has it exactly right.
I agree, for this reasoning. Even with what he said about Chalmers' distinction between the easy and hard problem of consciousness. Of course, he is implicitly still Aristotelian without making it clear that the primacy of a physical universe is a strong theological or metaphysical assumption “without-evidence”. In fact, I am sometimes attacked by people who claim that I am asserting that there is no physical universe. Those who do this are doing the fisher-man mistake, as I am saying only that we cannot assume the physical universe, which is quite different than to say it does not exist. 1492 years of Aristotelian brainwashing (by the Church notably), and the whole God/non-God debate, makes us forget that science (including theology) is born from the doubt, not about the existence of a physical universe, but about its primacy, or the need to assume it at the start. People confuse the obvious many evidences for a physical reality, with evidences that the physical reality is primary, but those are very different thing. In fact, there are not yet one evidence for physicalism, and the dream argument was a valid way to doubt it, and it becomes a theorem when we assume Digital Mechanism (like Darwin). Now, they are evidence against materialism, and I think materialism will disappear like vitalism. It does not make sense (provably so with Digital Mechanism)/ The problem here is that there are still many people (more than in my youth) who don’t understand that computer and computation are arithmetical notions. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b0692a6c-ce74-d59f-3ca0-ce9c220aae28%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b0692a6c-ce74-d59f-3ca0-ce9c220aae28%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/272D3C43-C999-459A-83CF-09DC48C6A87F%40ulb.ac.be.
