> On 26 Feb 2021, at 16:41, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>   From a scientific point of view, awakening refers to the extrinsic 
> energization of the non-electric, non-entropic, bio twin formed from the 
> moment of conception from  bio dark-matter and its chemistries. 

>From a scientific point of view that is a (vague) theory. I will wait for the 
>axioms, and the consequences, and the means of testing.

If by Pagan you mean the believer in Matter, you seem doubly Pagan to me, as 
you assume two sorts of matter.

Personally I tend to see (weak) Materialism as a lasting superstition. It will 
disappear from the natural science, or the science of the observable, like 
vitalism has disappeared from biology.

What what I see are universal machine measuring numbers and inferring all sorts 
of relation betweens those numbers. And yes, some claim bizarre things about 
those things not capturable by numbers, and they are correct on this. 

When doing metaphysics with the scientific method, we can use, today, the tools 
provided by mathematical logic, to distinguish better the realities (“models” 
or “interpretations” in the sense of logician) and the 
theories/machines/words/numbers/finite-thing we are tackling about, and can be 
talking with, or “in” (standard use).

I have no idea of your assumptions, and invoking dark matter is very weird, do 
you mean a theory with axions? I am not sure anybody have found a theory of 
Dark Matter, and I am personally skeptical on any ontological matter, as there 
are no evidence for that (despite Newtonian physics would contradict Mechanism, 
and be an evidence against mechanism if it were true).

Gödel’s theorem protects Mechanism from Diagonalisation à la Lucas-Penrose, and 
it happens that it protects mechanism from many misuse of quantum mechanics, 
that it predicts “semantically” and “syntactlcally”, and this without 
ontological commitment, just the usual simple fact of the type 2+2=4 or KSK = 
S, ... 

Bruno

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