On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:16:47 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:45 AM Terren Suydam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > It's impossible to refute solipsism >> > > True, but it's equally impossible to refute the idea that everything > including rocks is conscious. And if both a theory and its exact opposite > can neither be proven nor disproven then neither speculation is of any > value in trying to figure out how the world works. >
If everything is conscious, then how do we know? We have no unconscious objects to compare them with. The panpsychist argument becomes an ouroboros that consumes itself into a vacuous condition of either true or false. Nothing can be demonstrated from it, so it is a scientifically worthless conjecture. The best definition of consciousness is that it defines those annoying episodes between sleep. LC > > * > It's true that the only thing we know for sure is our own >> consciousness,* >> > And I know that even I am not conscious all the time, and there is no > reason for me to believe other people can do better. > > >> * > but there's nothing about what I said that makes it impossible for >> there to be a reality outside of ourselves populated by other people. It >> just requires belief.* >> > > And few if any believe other people are conscious all the time, only > during those times that corresponds to the times they behave intelligently > . > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a99fed14-cc52-4584-88d5-cb165c076024n%40googlegroups.com.
