On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 2:54:19 PM UTC+2 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

> The GRW interpretation states there is with any quantum wave a fundamental 
> phenomenon of collapse. The collapse occurs fundamentally by a stochastic 
> rule.


Fundamental, irreducible probability seems like an incompletely baked 
concept. Mathematically/structurally, probability can be defined in terms 
of pure sets, like any other mathematical/structural concept. Pure sets 
(combinations of combinations of combinations etc. founded on the empty 
combination) are the fundamental concept from which it is possible, in 
principle, to build up any structure. MWI attempts to define the quantum 
probability in terms of sets, whose most straightforward interpretation 
seems to be worlds. But the problem is that there seem to be infinitely 
many worlds in MWI and a system of infinitely many objects may have 
different probability measures that give different results, so it seems 
that the Schrodinger equation is not sufficient to calculate probabilities 
even in MWI and MWI also needs a probability measure as an additional 
property of the quantum multiverse, namely such that it results in the Born 
rule. There have been some claims that such a measure is the only possible 
one and as a layman I can't comment on that but as far as I know there is 
no consensus among physicists on how to derive the Born rule and so it may 
be a property of the quantum multiverse in which we happen to live and 
other quantum multiverses may have different probability measures. Or the 
Born rule might be derived with the help of another property that emerges 
from a deeper theory such as quantum gravity (which perhaps restricts the 
number of worlds to a finite number).

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