You can blame Donny, but in truth the vax averse simply are fearful that they 
will die from heart inflammation or blood clots if they get the shots. I would 
say that both Donny & Joe have done very poor work at clarifying the medical 
risks and rewards. Donny was never tight with his messaging and so left his 
statements were open to interpretation. Joe and company seem to want to 
intimidate the populace into submission, and by this appear to treat the vax as 
some kind of loyalty oath and obedience test. For public policy and popularity, 
when people start getting fired for not vaxing, this will not be a 
progressive-friendly environment to say the least. 
By evolution if you get the shots and we don't and we die off as a result, how 
does this affect you in a bad way? Less country folks to oppose your 
progressive policies, savvy? Cynical on my part indeed, yet, most of the 
politicians are attorneys so cynicism is baked in. Unavoidable even by the best 
of us. 


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From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Red Covid

 And not all anti-vaxxers are Trumpists.  In fact before Trump and covid the 
main anti-vaxxers were leftist celebrities like Gwenth Paltrow and Robert F. 
Kennedy Jr.  But they were a small fringe group.  Now, thanks to Trump and the 
other anti-government conspiracy theorists, the is a majority of Republicans 
who anti-vaxxers, but just on for the covid vaccine.  The fact that someone 
else is also anti-vaxx doesn't make that large group any less stupid or any 
less of a threat to public health.
 
 Brent
 
 On 9/30/2021 2:04 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 
Simply because you conflate the two actions in a continuous manner savvy.  Your 
consistent message is that only the trumpy voter won't take the vaccines.  Only 
white trumpy rednecks are vaccine averse. 
  This is like the old saying that all bar tenders are democrats But not all 
democrats are bar tenders.  
  Except the above contention is accurate, and your contention is not accurate. 
 
  If you're going to do science so science, but that will have to be dependent 
on all the facts, unlike ideology. 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: John Clark <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected]
 Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
 Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 5:24 am
 Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Red Covid
 
     On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 8:06 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
    
  
 > Heh! These must be life long Trump voters, JC?  Black L.A. residents have 
 > highest COVID hospitalization rate: 
 
  You keep bringing up Black people over and over and over again as if you 
expect me to say that only Caucasians can be stupid and that Black people never 
are, well I'm afraid you're going to be waiting for a very long time.     
   > your progressive policies now spawn free enterprise. Black market for fake 
vaccination cards [blah blah blah]  
 
  None of your complete irrelevancies can distract from the fact that Trump 
supporters are dying of COVID-19 at a vastly higher rate than Biden supporters 
because Biden supporters tend to be less stupid.    
  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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