On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 12:37, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> I encourage getting the vaccine and yet I do wonder if some people are
> vulnerable to its use?
> This is from today and it is not the Moderna or the Pfizer vaccine.
>
> https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Washington-woman-dies-from-rare-J-J-vaccine-16511225.php
>
> If there was some test that could quickly identify those at risk from a
> vaccination, it would help to round up 99% of the vaccine averse. Baring
> such a development, people don't trust the government, as it is now
> constituted, and I don't simply mean Joe + Kamala.
>

You are being extremely generous to the vaccine averse if you think 99% of
them are rational. Also, a screening test for a one in a million condition
would likely have a false positive and false negative rate far in excess of
one in a million, making it useless.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]
> >
> To: spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 5, 2021 8:50 pm
> Subject: Re: Unbounded stupidity​ ​
>
> No.  We eliminated smallpox without vaccinating everyone on Earth.
> Unfortunately we can't do that with covid because it exists in some animals
> (as does ebola).  But that's still a stupid argument against someone
> getting the vaccine.  It's like saying that even with seatbelts people will
> get killed in car accidents, therefore it's reasonable to refuse to wear
> seatbelts, because...Freedumb!
>
> Brent
>
> On 10/5/2021 1:40 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> Brent, kindly remember from an epidemiological basis, to rid ourselves
> finally from Covid and all its strains we are going to have to vaccinate
> everyone on earth. This from a vax standpoint comes from not the public
> health experts, but also from my brother in law, a Biden voter, who
> informed me of this and I corroborated online, and agree with.
>
> Lets not argue the point in this thread, but we now have open borders,
> which is a political and ideological contention. It is also, a rapid
> means also of infection. If you wish to spend US tax payer dollars on
> such a global approach, I will will say yes, yes yes!  I am just opposed
> to using this plague in a dictatorial manner, and am suspicious, and
> paranoid that it is being used as an excuse for dictatorial goals. Call it
> my bad.
>
> A related feature of this, whoever you voted for or against, keep your eye
> on the economy.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 9:05 pm
> Subject: Re: Unbounded stupidity​ ​
>
>
>
> On 10/4/2021 4:51 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> Funny, I read Taleb's book as well. Small world. I mean 't in the previous
> post that when those terrible nazi Trump voters refuse the shots, according
> to Team Dem, they will perish from this earth. Thus, if its what you are
> good with, and it is, then it will assure your claim and hold on power, Mr.
> Dem. How is this a loss for you?
>
>
> It's been explained to you at least three times:
>
> (1) We have family and friends that can't take the vaccine (too young,
> immune system problems...) and so need to rely on herd immunity.
>
> (2) All you unvaccinated yahoos are just a big incubator for more variants
> of covid, one of which may prove resistant to the vaccine.
>
> (3) The unvaccinated Trumpists are taking up hospital beds, staff, and
> ICU's which leaves other people unable to get emergency and elective care.
>
> Why don't you try printing this out and keeping it in your wallet so when
> you're temped to repeat your BS for a fourth time you can take it out and
> read it and you'll know how it's a loss for the smarter part of humanity.
>
> Brent
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