On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 7:58 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> * > Every deterministic theory requires that the universe began in one >> and only one very specific initial condition.* > > > Incorrect, none of the others demand specificity, none of the others are > picky about initial conditions. No other cosmological theory needs the > universe to start out in one and only one very specific state for the idea > to work, nearly any state would do. Superdeterminism is unique, no other > deterministic theory, or theory of any sort, requires that the universe > began in one and only one very very very specific initial condition, the > only one that supports their pet theory. If the many world's idea could be > ruled out in some other way > Many worlds is not the issue for Hossenfelder. She is concerned about the non-locality of conventional quantum mechanics. With Einstein, she wants to rule out "Spooky action at a distance." Since many worlds cannot give a local account of Bell-type correlations, either, that theory is of little interest to Sabine: she insists on a local theory, and MWI is not local. It seems that her strategy has been to find a flaw in Bell's proof that no local hidden variable theory is possible. Since any theorem is only as good as its premises, she sees a loophole in Bell's assumption of statistical independence -- the hidden variables are required to be independent of the remote detector settings. However, simply finding a flaw in Bell's theorem does not prove that quantum physics is local. What is ultimately required is a local account of the correlations that violate Bell's inequality. No one has ever given such a local model. Bruce nobody in their right mind would propose an idea as ridiculous as > superdeterminism. Nobody! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLT%2Bg7WOyHZgPrDF9HBu_ChXS38dv_8gjzK-bjb1z8icAw%40mail.gmail.com.