For most scientists and especially physicists, "God," just gets in the way. There's a Buddha quote that goes, "If you are on your path through the forest, and the Buddha stands in your way, strike him down." Meaning, in my interpretation :-) that if you have a better way, don't let me stop you. So scientists, especially physicists and astronomers need to be able to pursue knowledge Deity-free! Sean Carroll don't like it, You don't, nor, do most of the worthies here. Some people like to make scrambled eggs with cream, others use just water, and some add other ingredients. On da Udder hand, said da Cozmic Cow, dere iz dis-2104.03902.pdf (arxiv.org) I don't view Alexander or Smolin or Lanier as scientific light weights, and for me, this is enjoyably, provocative. One takeaway from this paper is that, physicists and astronomers would then be the "holiest' people there are, because they study the divine mind directly..holy...holy...holy cannoli's!!! Ha! Anyway, its a thought.
-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, May 22, 2022 6:44 pm Subject: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem It is amazing the depth of nonsense, rot and trash in this thread. This is an indication of how utterly worthless religion is when it comes to understanding even the most minimal of things. There is a basic reason why Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine. He and his cronies have stolen everything they can steal. It is similar to the Argentine strongman Gaultier, who with his cronies had looted the Argentine economy to the bone. So to distract public attention away from their crimes Gaultier decided that taking the Falklands from Britain was a great idea. A victory of that sort would buoy up his standing and ..., yeah it did not work. Putin's invasion of Ukraine was meant to do just the same, and the outcome does not look too different. The fall of the Soviet Union did not displace people in charge. All they did was to tear up their communist party cards, and the commissars of various industries declared themselves capitalists and owners. They became the oligarchs of Russia and these gangsters have been plundering Russia ever since. The Russian economy has barely muddled along for the last 3 decades. Putin is probably the second most wealthy man in the world. Please folks, knock off the religious rubbish. I see absolutely no reason to think there exist any form of disembodied conscious agent. This is whether it is YHVH, Jesus, Allah, Vishnu, or ..., including angels, demons, demiurges, spirits or immortal souls that exists in some nonphysical form. This is not about being pagan as Ben has it; no I do not believe in that crap either, LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/55542681-8a40-4047-bd17-2ca4231ec151n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1348223580.877199.1653288230459%40mail.yahoo.com.
