On 7/11/2022 1:10 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Part of it for some is notion that one cannot offend the Guy upstairs, or invoke the wrath of one's fellows, whether a religion or ideology.

My personal favorite dream after I win the lotto, would be to pay a physicist lots of money to come up with a scientifically plausible theory for God, the afterlife, & and everything.

If it's a theory for God it must include miracles, since that's sort of the defining power of God.  Once there are miracles the physics of the theory is complete.  Of course there's the ethical question of whether one should worship a God who's cruel and narcissistic, but that's not a question for a physicist, nor a problem for a Trumpist.

Brent

The writer would be given the option to write on the frontispiece: "Look, I believe this is bullshit, but I'm being paid lots of money to come up with this, so yeah, I sold out. I am a loyal atheist, and don't care much for people who waste their damn time thinking about a fantasy! But, I can find a good use for the cash he's paying me, sooooo, sue me!"

In this manner, the physicist would be insulated from the wrath of his employer and colleagues. "So fire me, I could use the vacation time going to AAAS meetings, break my heart."

I mean this would be like a super Templeton Prize, but more profitable.



-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am
Subject: Re: Scriptural refutation of the Transhumanist Movement



On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

    On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:42 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

        /> Transhumanism isn't even about real world. It's about
        speculation about the real world/


    And the New Testament, the Torah, the Quran, the Book of
    Mormon,the writings of L Ron Hubbard, and the authors of every
    other scientific ignoramus who wrote "Holy Scriptures" are
    unimaginative speculations about an unreal world.

    John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis
    <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
    tbb



These things are mythic narratives.  As for travels and descriptions of places in the world, sure there were travelers who told of these places. This mentality is the antithesis of real thought. Bertrand Russel met Vladimir Ilyich Lenin and was struck by how Lenin could not talk outside the bounds of Marxist thinking. It was as if he was a prisoner of this ideology. Religion is similar, it is a "mind forged manacle" the imprisons the mind so it can not longer really think.

LC

    uzp

        On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 12:30 PM spudboy100 via Everything
        List <[email protected]> wrote:


            /> I don't see refutation of by scriptures,/


        I don't see why anybody should care what the scriptures have
        to say about transhumanism given that they were written by
        members of a bronze age tribe who didn't even know where the
        sun went at night; transhumanismis about the physical world,
        how on Earth could anybody expect wisdom about thatfrom them?



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