The big tip off is the threat of eternal doom, indeed. The afterlife thing is 
inspired by somebody thinking about the wrongness of tragedies and the 
inability to do something about it. So, a big fix is in order whether its 
belief in the Giant Spaghetti Monster, or something a bit more cosmological. 
Also LC, the psycho-social benefits for many if not most cannot be disputed.
https://neurosciencenews.com/spirituality-health-21025/
Beyond all that, Heaven my simply be a future goal for the species? If the data 
is accessible, so are we. That tweet bird who croaked yesterday, and that 
dimetrodon who couldn't handle the air pollution from the volcanoes 254 years 
ago. It would be the greatest data recovery project in our history and me 
thinks, a worthy goal. No, not everyone must join in to be saved! Sally forth 
with your projects and you'll serve the common good. Atheism is no show 
stopper, and re-creating brainy people sounds nice. 
I'd like to go with futurist Aleksey Turchin and his use of a Dyson Sphere for 
resurrection as well as a nice bit of real estate for the "young folks." Yeah, 
it bores you to tears, but intrigues this American peasant. Heck, it even looks 
like a Christmas ornament, an expensive one.
Ho Ho Ho -Spud







-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2022 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: Scriptural refutation of the Transhumanist Movement

The idea of afterlife is a sort of pigeon drop. That is a scam where a person 
is convinced that by putting up 10% of the value of something in earnest money 
they will get a huge windfall. In the case of religion the reward is eternity, 
after death or the passing of this world, which cannot be substantiated. It 
also involves the threat that if a person does not put up their earnest 
"money," or declare faith they will suffer eternal punishment. It is the 
ultimate scam. The scam has played well for centuries, and both Christianity 
and Islam are eschatological fraudulent schemes.
LC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:30 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> For me, the afterlife-compensation belief may have some benefit for many

Not if the afterlife includes hell, a place where an omniscient being will use 
all of His infinite power to inflict infinite pain on you for an infinite 
number of years and a place that can ONLY be avoided if you have lived a 
perfect life. I have a great deal of difficulty understanding why an infinitely 
intelligent being would want to do that. But I find it remarkably easy to 
understand why a human being, like a Christian priest or shaman of some other 
religious franchise that claims to have God's cell number and email address, 
would invent such an idea, he concocted eternal damnation because it increased 
the likelihood he will be able to convince other humans to do what he wants 
them to do.  And priests, pastors, mullahs and all other sorts of conmen like 
power. 

      John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolisleh












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