The big tip off is the threat of eternal doom, indeed. The afterlife thing is inspired by somebody thinking about the wrongness of tragedies and the inability to do something about it. So, a big fix is in order whether its belief in the Giant Spaghetti Monster, or something a bit more cosmological. Also LC, the psycho-social benefits for many if not most cannot be disputed. https://neurosciencenews.com/spirituality-health-21025/ Beyond all that, Heaven my simply be a future goal for the species? If the data is accessible, so are we. That tweet bird who croaked yesterday, and that dimetrodon who couldn't handle the air pollution from the volcanoes 254 years ago. It would be the greatest data recovery project in our history and me thinks, a worthy goal. No, not everyone must join in to be saved! Sally forth with your projects and you'll serve the common good. Atheism is no show stopper, and re-creating brainy people sounds nice. I'd like to go with futurist Aleksey Turchin and his use of a Dyson Sphere for resurrection as well as a nice bit of real estate for the "young folks." Yeah, it bores you to tears, but intrigues this American peasant. Heck, it even looks like a Christmas ornament, an expensive one. Ho Ho Ho -Spud
-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2022 3:22 pm Subject: Re: Scriptural refutation of the Transhumanist Movement The idea of afterlife is a sort of pigeon drop. That is a scam where a person is convinced that by putting up 10% of the value of something in earnest money they will get a huge windfall. In the case of religion the reward is eternity, after death or the passing of this world, which cannot be substantiated. It also involves the threat that if a person does not put up their earnest "money," or declare faith they will suffer eternal punishment. It is the ultimate scam. The scam has played well for centuries, and both Christianity and Islam are eschatological fraudulent schemes. LC On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:30 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: > For me, the afterlife-compensation belief may have some benefit for many Not if the afterlife includes hell, a place where an omniscient being will use all of His infinite power to inflict infinite pain on you for an infinite number of years and a place that can ONLY be avoided if you have lived a perfect life. I have a great deal of difficulty understanding why an infinitely intelligent being would want to do that. But I find it remarkably easy to understand why a human being, like a Christian priest or shaman of some other religious franchise that claims to have God's cell number and email address, would invent such an idea, he concocted eternal damnation because it increased the likelihood he will be able to convince other humans to do what he wants them to do. And priests, pastors, mullahs and all other sorts of conmen like power. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolisleh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/dfa6d93a-9ddf-4d3e-9bed-8db40cc6638cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1256132526.691670.1657761735422%40mail.yahoo.com.

