On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 5:09 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
wrote:

*> Most modern philosophers are compatibilists, so called because they
> think free will and determinism are compatible. *


I think before philosophers start saying what free will is and is not
compatible with they should first explain what the hell they mean by "free
will, but they never do, when asked they just start waving their hands
around speaking gibberish.


> *> Compatibilists say that you act freely if you do so according to your
> preferences *


There are only 2 possibilities, there is either a reason for my preference
in which case it is mechanical, or there is no reason for my preference in
which case it is by definition un-reasonable and random.

*> or under abnormal influence such as psychotic illness. *


There are only 2 possibilities,  there is a reason for that "abnormal"
influence in which case it is mechanical or there is no reason for the
"abnormal"  influence in which case it is by definition un-reasonable and
random.

> This is the layperson’s definition of freedom and the definition used to
> establish legal responsibility in court.


Yes, and that is why the legal system is such a ridiculous incoherent
mess. There
could be no other outcome if something is based on pure nonsense.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

hgh

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