On 8/12/2022 3:14 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 6:05 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/12/2022 2:29 PM, Jason Resch wrote:On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:25 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/12/2022 12:56 PM, Jason Resch wrote:On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 3:29 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/12/2022 12:13 PM, Jason Resch wrote:On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:18 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/12/2022 10:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote:Below is what I wrote: The way I like to think about it is this: If one is willing to believe that truth values for mathematical relations like “2 + 2 = 4” can exist and be true independently of the universe or someone writing it down, or a mathematician thinking about it, that is all you need.But it's truth value does depend on someone assigning the value "t" to some axioms and all mathematical truth values are nothing but "t" arbitrarily assigned to some axioms plus some rules of inference that preserve "t". "t" has little to do with what it true in the world. The physical world chugs along with anyone having to assign to assign values, or apply rules of inference. Why can't the same be true for other platonic objects?Because "Platonic" means "exists only in imagination". Perhaps conventionally. But perhaps physical existence is platonic existence (i.e. all self-consistent structures exist, all rule based formal systems, etc.).Given a sufficiently broad definition of "exists". Just like 2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.This would account for fine-tuning, and plausibly yield an answer to "why quantum mechanics?"One can "account" for anything in words. Not exactly. The existence of a plentitude implies observers should find themselves entwines with an environment having many-histories.You don't know that the environment has more than one history.If there was no QM, that would rule out the existence of a plentitude.You think God couldn't have created other Newtonian worlds?If there is an infinite plenitude of individually distinct Newtonianworlds, observers within that reality will experience indeterminnacein their observations due to the fact that each observer's mind has aninfinity of incarnations across different Newtonian universes in theplentitude.

`In a Newtonian multitude even observer would be distinct and would have`

`only one instance. There would be no indeterminance.`

Brent

Even God could perhaps not eliminate that indeterminnace asexperienced by most observers in such a reality. The feat might belike making a square circle.Jason --You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Everything List" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sendan email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUj6FAkAW2cZGEUwTheqDHSvdBTvytbBh8mOgSWW7xHzWA%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUj6FAkAW2cZGEUwTheqDHSvdBTvytbBh8mOgSWW7xHzWA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.

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