On 8/12/2022 4:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 6:19 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/12/2022 3:14 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 6:05 PM Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/12/2022 2:29 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 5:25 PM Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/12/2022 12:56 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 3:29 PM Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/12/2022 12:13 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:18 PM Brent Meeker
<meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/12/2022 10:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Below is what I wrote:
The way I like to think about it is this:
If one is willing to believe that truth
values for mathematical relations like “2
+ 2 = 4” can exist and be true
independently of the universe or someone
writing it down, or a mathematician
thinking about it, that is all you need.
But it's truth value does depend on someone
assigning the value "t" to some axioms and all
mathematical truth values are nothing but "t"
arbitrarily assigned to some axioms plus some
rules of inference that preserve "t". "t" has
little to do with what it true in the world.
The physical world chugs along with anyone having
to assign to assign values, or apply rules of
inference.
Why can't the same be true for other platonic objects?
Because "Platonic" means "exists only in imagination".
Perhaps conventionally.
But perhaps physical existence is platonic existence
(i.e. all self-consistent structures exist, all rule
based formal systems, etc.).
Given a sufficiently broad definition of "exists".
Just like 2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.
This would account for fine-tuning, and plausibly yield
an answer to "why quantum mechanics?"
One can "account" for anything in words.
Not exactly. The existence of a plentitude implies observers
should find themselves entwines with an environment having
many-histories.
You don't know that the environment has more than one history.
If there was no QM, that would rule out the existence of a
plentitude.
You think God couldn't have created other Newtonian worlds?
If there is an infinite plenitude of individually distinct
Newtonian worlds, observers within that reality will experience
indeterminnace in their observations due to the fact that each
observer's mind has an infinity of incarnations across different
Newtonian universes in the plentitude.
In a Newtonian multitude even observer would be distinct and would
have only one instance. There would be no indeterminance.
Why do you say they would be distinct?
They're either distinct or identical and identical universes are the
same universe, c.f. Laplace and the identity of indiscernibles.
Brent
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