On 9/8/2022 8:00 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:19 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net>
wrote:
>> Like me Carmackis much more interested in intelligence than
consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical
zombie" argument.
/> It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?/
Because one is a useful activity and the other is not.
If one were unconscious to whom would it be useful?
Brent
Even if you have an IQ of 200 and spend your entire life studying
consciousness you will advance the field precisely as much as the
entire human race has in the last thousand years. And that would be
precisely zero. Isaac Newton must've had an IQ of about 200 and
unfortunately he spent much more time studying theology than physics
and mathematics put together, but despite that colossal effort he
advanced the field of theology not at all, and nobody else has managed
to do any better. The same is true with consciousness.
>> "/It seems to me this is the highest leverage moment for a
single individual potentially////in the history of the
world./ [...]/I am not a mad man in saying that the code for
artificial General intelligence is going to be tens of
thousands of lines of code, not millions of lines of code.
This is code that conceivably one individual could write,
unliker writing a new web browser or operating system.//"/
/> In a sense, I agree. But remember that, even with code, we are
sitting on the shoulders of giants. A few lines of code in
contemporary Python mobilize decades upon decades of the blood
sweat and tears of the programmers that came before, who built all
of this amazing infrastructure. How many lines in the Linux kernel?/
That's why I disagree with those who say Moore's law only applies to
hardware and not to software. Imagine if there were no modern software
tools and you had to program everything in machine language using
nothing but 0 and 1. Fortunately we don't have to do that because
machines have been able to help us write computer programs for many
decades.
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
stc
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