Am Do, 8. Sep 2022, um 17:00, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:19 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> wrote: > __ > >>> >> Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than >>> consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zombie" argument. >> >> *> It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?* > > Because one is a useful activity and the other is not.
If there is one thing one cannot doubt, John, is that you are thoroughly American :) > Even if you have an IQ of 200 and spend your entire life studying > consciousness you will advance the field precisely as much as the entire > human race has in the last thousand years. And that would be precisely zero. > Isaac Newton must've had an IQ of about 200 and unfortunately he spent much > more time studying theology Unfortunately for you maybe, but perhaps it gave him joy and I bet that was the main thing that mattered to Isaac Newton. Good for him, I would say. At some point we will all be dead, and nothing will matter or be useful to us by then. Telmo > than physics and mathematics put together, but despite that colossal effort > he advanced the field of theology not at all, and nobody else has managed to > do any better. The same is true with consciousness. > >> >>> >>> >> "***It seems to me this is the highest leverage moment for a single >>> >> individual potentially** **in the history of the world.* [...] *I am >>> >> not a mad man in saying that the code for artificial General >>> >> intelligence is going to be tens of thousands of lines of code, not >>> >> millions of lines of code. This is code that conceivably one individual >>> >> could write, unliker writing a new web browser or operating system.**"* >> >> *> In a sense, I agree. But remember that, even with code, we are sitting on >> the shoulders of giants. A few lines of code in contemporary Python mobilize >> decades upon decades of the blood sweat and tears of the programmers that >> came before, who built all of this amazing infrastructure. How many lines in >> the Linux kernel?* > > That's why I disagree with those who say Moore's law only applies to hardware > and not to software. Imagine if there were no modern software tools and you > had to program everything in machine language using nothing but 0 and 1. > Fortunately we don't have to do that because machines have been able to help > us write computer programs for many decades. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > stc > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3Oo3GJW%2BXU%2BgO0_h0cKXf0EwpEooOiEZwk%3DnqR_EmNdg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3Oo3GJW%2BXU%2BgO0_h0cKXf0EwpEooOiEZwk%3DnqR_EmNdg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/37b3f864-41d5-4f58-8b0c-c3628af5a813%40www.fastmail.com.
