Could research into unconsciousness be somewhat easier?
When are a brain unconscious?
During anesthesia you might say.
Alas, as everything else, it is not that simple.

If we look at what's actually required for a satisfied patient, a truly
unconscious brain ai'nt that.
Especially as long as both lawyers and patients agree that impaired memory
are enough for satisfaction.
Absence of objections are not evidence of good enough.
A well and sufficiently (not over) medicated patient have a quite active
brain during anesthesia. Conscious? Probably not. Memory retention?
Hopefully not . Pain reactions to surgery? Actually possible to measure, se
www.med-storm.com most patients with classic standard anesthesia are
severly as in cognitive impairment dose level overmedicated during surgery.
No Pain.

So a patient who officially are the definition of unconscious, aint and
should not be.

So what is unconscious then? I would wager that it is difficult to prove
anything about a regular stone, so lets call that one unconscious.
/Henrik


Den fre 9 sep. 2022 00:44John Clark <[email protected]> skrev:

> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  >>>>  Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than
>>>>> consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zombie" argument.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *>>>  It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?*
>>>>
>>>
>>> * >> If one were unconscious to whom would it be useful?*
>>
>>
>
> > Because one is a useful activity and the other is not.
>
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> I meant that research into the nature of intelligence is useful, that is
> to say it leads somewhere, but consciousness research leads nowhere and
> accomplishes nothing.
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