Could research into unconsciousness be somewhat easier? When are a brain unconscious? During anesthesia you might say. Alas, as everything else, it is not that simple.
If we look at what's actually required for a satisfied patient, a truly unconscious brain ai'nt that. Especially as long as both lawyers and patients agree that impaired memory are enough for satisfaction. Absence of objections are not evidence of good enough. A well and sufficiently (not over) medicated patient have a quite active brain during anesthesia. Conscious? Probably not. Memory retention? Hopefully not . Pain reactions to surgery? Actually possible to measure, se www.med-storm.com most patients with classic standard anesthesia are severly as in cognitive impairment dose level overmedicated during surgery. No Pain. So a patient who officially are the definition of unconscious, aint and should not be. So what is unconscious then? I would wager that it is difficult to prove anything about a regular stone, so lets call that one unconscious. /Henrik Den fre 9 sep. 2022 00:44John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> skrev: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than >>>>> consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zombie" argument. >>>> >>>> >>>> *>>> It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?* >>>> >>> >>> * >> If one were unconscious to whom would it be useful?* >> >> > > > Because one is a useful activity and the other is not. > > > I meant that research into the nature of intelligence is useful, that is > to say it leads somewhere, but consciousness research leads nowhere and > accomplishes nothing. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > kkq > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv13bweRRmHnBk4BHB7ASwCgwTSWmgucqeCNevQrahB2EA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv13bweRRmHnBk4BHB7ASwCgwTSWmgucqeCNevQrahB2EA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAF0GBnhczN%2B0K7jcS9upCSLU2Pz4nwnoRT741e5WEYdGZA8GAw%40mail.gmail.com.