Spud is the culprit doing this. If he wants to go off-topic, he should 
start a dedicated thread, not wreak this one. AG

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:51:30 PM UTC-7 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Ah, and Minkowski's higher dimension appears to require Willem DeSitter 
>> to step in and re-normalize the view from such an observer. My thinking is, 
>> would this be some sort of tachyonic field in some kind of Lorentzian 
>> Manifold? You may know, but I cannot. 
>>
>>
> This discussion is splintering off into a range of utterly unconnected 
> topic, from de Sitter spacetime to Hogarth-Malamet hypercomputation. This 
> is completely disconnected, and it is delving far more into science fiction 
> than science.
>
> LC
>  
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
>> To: Everything List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, Nov 17, 2022 6:57 am
>> Subject: Re: Is Special Relativity valid for accelerating frames of 
>> reference? TY.
>>
>> What I outline is the idea of the Rindler wedge, or the spacetime 
>> according to an accelerated observer. The Unruh effect is a quantum field 
>> theoretic result on how quantum fields on either side of the induced 
>> particle horizon have no complete description according to the accelerated 
>> observer. As a result the Minkowski vacuum becomes vacuum plus a thermal 
>> distribution of bosons. 
>>
>> LC
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:41:49 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Acceleration at the speed of (G)ravity is a bit unconfirmed, though 
>> widely, accepted by the physics community to be the same as that of photons 
>> through an absolute vacuum. Meanwhile, we can also address through 
>> relativity this question: What is the aggregate speed of T = time? At a 
>> cosmological black hole time stops. At just under the speed of a photon in 
>> absolute vacuum ,the speed of time also enters a null set at the observer 
>> pov.  
>>
>> It is also possible through the miracle or quantum gravity that the 
>> observer moment splits into many histories (Hawking-Hartle). 
>> Thus, the Reference Frame is made flesh through Everett-DeWitt-Wheeler 
>> equations, as MWI flourishes, via frame dragging. 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
>> To: Everything List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2022 9:10 pm
>> Subject: Re: Is Special Relativity valid for accelerating frames of 
>> reference? TY.
>>
>> Coordinate time variables dt = cosh(gs)ds and dx= sinh(gs)ds are such 
>> that dt^2 - dx^2 =  (cosh^2(gs) - sinh^2(gs))ds^2 = ds^2, and defines a 
>> flat space metric for special relativity. These coordinates define an 
>> accelerated frame with acceleration g. 
>>
>> LC
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:14:26 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can Ref Frames be addressed with General Relativity, also? Travel very 
>> fast, time slows down. Travel to a supermassive location, time slows down. 
>> The thing then is time, which Julian Barbour says it doesn't exist-which I 
>> understand. What exists is motion. Even motion at a quantum scale, like the 
>> bopping of electrons and photons. They move nonetheless, somebody in Italy, 
>> once said. 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
>> To: Everything List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2022 7:05 pm
>> Subject: Re: Is Special Relativity valid for accelerating frames of 
>> reference? TY.
>>
>> Accelerated frames can be addressed with special relativity. 
>>
>> LC
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 2:14:46 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>> EOM.
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