Hired for Khilafat http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2022/07/hired-for-khilafat.html
> On 19-Dec-2022, at 9:13 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I am good with whatever we can do to improve the human condition. > Maybe we are locked in by the circumstances of physics and astronomy? > Maybe we can learn ways in the far future of recovering minds from oblivion, > and maybe never? > If it is the former, I'd like to think that our descendants, if they get the > technology would be is to take a whack at it. > So, the potential for human minds that never made it to consciousness, minds > cut off suddenly, everyone else needs to... > Recovered. The biggest data recovery project in the universe (maybe?). It may > never happen, it may be impossible, but given enough time & science, I will > say yes. > > Others can and should dispute this. We each have our limits and our own > tolerances for things & some do better than others. > > For myself, a layman of some sort, I tend to be attracted to science analyses > and philosophies that indicate the mechanism of stuff like this. Here is a > short essay from physicist (ret) Guilio Prisco that suggests this path. > > https://turingchurch.net/the-infrared-memory-of-the-universe-hints-at-future-akashic-physics-3f9a072f0ca6 > Basing it on, this collection from Andrew Strominger 2018, "Lectures on the > Infrared Structure of Gravity and Gauge Theory." > > Is this a slam-dunk? I am not the one to say. On the it gives a description > of memory being created by the interaction of photons & gravity. For me it > addresses the How questions and the Why I leave for others, only now that it > seems a bit more plausible as in cause and effect. > > There are a few other essays out there- > https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bNJfe7zyXpdnhqWmo/technological-resurrection-two-possible-approaches > > Here was one from 2021 for which I add: It's Popular Mechanics People! It's > got to be true!!! > https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a35788050/dyson-sphere-digital-resurrection-immortality/ > > Tim Anderson at Georgia Tech occasionally postulates an essay or two on this > "data recovery program." > > Jason Resch had a website going but hasn't been update since 2021 but did > approach the concepts I am blabbing about. > > Like most worthy human endeavors, we flop about till we either give up or get > things correct and of use. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 8:18 pm > Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics > > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > We shall see about hypersonic weapons, just know that Joey is responding in > kind. > > Yes, you and the Christians are opposed to my Brave New World approach to > birthing. It is however a way up from abortion and if we are going to be a > more, ethical species, this would be a huge step. It will sell, but its not > being offered by progressives, nor, conservatives, because of their > dedication to ideology. > > > It's only more ethical if you think an organism completely lacking a > functioning brain can still have human-like moral worth merely by virtue of > having human DNA--the neurons in the cortex of a fetus are mostly lacking in > synapses until around the end of the second trimester, and no coherent brain > waves are seen until then. Seems hard to justify that stance if one doesn't > believe in a "soul", or in any kind of essentialistic notion that "human > organism" is a natural kind (in the philosophical sense of a totally > objective division in reality of the kind discussed at > https://iep.utm.edu/nat-kind/ ) so that mindless zygotes/fetuses are > objectively "human organisms" while other cases, like a sperm cell > approaching an egg cell or a collection of human stem cells kept alive in a > petri dish, are not "human organisms". If one wants to have some kind of > ethical system that can easily adapt to a possible transhuman future, the > idea that a human has a higher moral status than say a fish can't be rooted > specifically in human DNA, not if one wants to say that an AI or genetically > engineered animal could also potentially have the same higher moral value--it > would have to be rooted in something more abstract, like some broad > characterization of mental abilities or form of consciousness. But any such > abstract characterization of what gives an entity special moral worth is > probably not going to include fetuses before the onset of higher brain > function. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 6:39 am > Subject: Death, science, and politics > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:10 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hypersonics only do 13.5 KPH. However, their trick is swerving in mid air > > to avoid being hit by incoming anti-missiles. > > I have three comments on that: > > 1) The US does not have a viable defense against ICBMs, it didn't have one 60 > years ago when ICBMs first came online and it doesn't have one today. And > neither does Russia. And neither does China. And neither does anybody else. > And nobody is likely to develop one in the foreseeable future. > > 2) Just one modern ICBM can contain hundreds of decoys and a dozen nuclear > reentry warheads, each many times more powerful than the bomb that destroyed > Hiroshima, and can be individually maneuvered and reach a dozen cities > hundreds of miles apart with pinpoint accuracy. > > 3) You say you hate Russia but you uncritically believe all the hype they > spew out. The Russians fire a few hypersonic missiles into Ukraine and claim > it is a world beating weapon, but it turns out to have an insignificant > effect on the war. The Russians claimed they had a powerful all conquering > army, but it turned out to be powerful on paper only because it had > incompetent commanders leading untrained poorly equipped soldiers who had > bottom of the birdcage morale and were communicating with unencrypted > commercial cell phones and we're fighting with obsolete weapons, some from > the 1940s. > > > To grease your skids, JC, I will push (along with others) making abortion > > less attractive then building artificial wombs! Thus retaining the > > Christian voter and promoting a new moral answer for humankind. > > Christian voters were very upset when the first so-called "test tube baby" > was born by in vitro fertilization, today many think even condoms are an > unnatural abomination and should be banned; so I really don't think > Christians are going to be thrilled by artificial wombs. And it would take > years and billions of dollars to develop artificial wombs, but historically > Republicans have been reluctant to spend money on scientific research or > spend money on anything except for devices that can kill people that the > military or the man in the street can use. And I'm not sure Republicans would > be happy about spending many trillions of tax dollars to care for millions of > unwanted and unloved children for 18 years. But I am sure that Republicans > will blame the Democrats for the huge increase in street crime that spikes 18 > years after your lunatic plan takes effect. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > vdy > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv17MjLRDCek6M%3DDF0UHvwKr7dnqgK-PJRFmBkD65QkPDg%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/151154478.850912.1671385979431%40mail.yahoo.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAPCWU3%2Bf0d6fQBFQB2PePk6Y6Vj31FmsTvj5Lb-h48H6uh-%2BEg%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1401519120.292448.1671423198482%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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