For a skeptic of God, whom, I am ok with as long as they do things I admire 
(Sean Carroll). Also, as The Buddha once said; "If the Buddha stands in your 
path, strike him down!" In others if you have a better way, forge ahead, and 
don't let me stop you? If you wonder if Hoover and the Dulles brothers got rid 
of JFK for different reasons but conspired perhaps, know that it's worth 
thinking about. 
Consider that if people who voted for Bush Jr, can be lied to, maybe a democrat 
voter could be lied to as well? The question needs to be what are the facts, 
are the facts more important than the circumstances? Do you as a dem take one 
for the team? You hate the Reps but are we correct twice a day like a broken, 
mechanical, clock? Are dems correct twice a day as well? Life is a Bowie that 
cuts both ways. This is the reason I was arfing about Policy as being central a 
few months ago. 
I don't believe in conspiracies because of emotional needs, simply logical, 
rational, reasons, even JFK. So, if accusations come to light, lets judge by 
what we think we know. We also judge and decide by policies. Abortion- no 
Abortion, Solar Power- Fossil fuels, Covid natural- Covid Coverup by Xi???   I 
don't expect concessions from the dem voter, only reasoning via the information 
that they have. I can't convince my own sister, so I have no scorecard for you. 
It is life in the 21st century, and we do the best we can. 
Should I mistrust Bush junior? Yeah, based on how Osama disappeared magically, 
and it took Obama to kill Osama. See, I change my mind based on new facts and 
reasoning. I, as a voter, give myself the right to do this.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 1:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote:


> Let's talk. I have often, in later years, suspected that GWB the younger in 
> dec 2001 permitted Osama Ben Laden to escape to Iran (under the auspices of 
> the Ayatollahs) and George covered his ass by the Iraq Invasion. Also, in the 
> 90's tried to assassinate former president Bush the Sr. so as to do revenge 
> and to eliminate an additional threat.  My theory??? 

Darwin knows I'm no apologist for CWB, before Donald Trump came along I often 
said he was the worst president in my lifetime and possibly the worst president 
of any time, but this conspiracy theory, like all your conspiracy theories, 
simply makes no sense.   

> Meanwhile, lets look into this as science buffs because Joey, even though he 
> took money from Chinese agents (US & foreign Corporations) has been FORCED by 
> comrade XI, to adopt Trump's China policy 2017-2021.

And this conspiracy theory makes as much sense as your last conspiracy theory, 
precisely zero.  And I don't believe Stanley Kubrick faked the Apollo moon 
landing either.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis

jxs

 
Maybe it's true but as you say it's a low confidence essay and given the fact 
that these same government agencies told George Bush in 2003 with HIGH 
confidence that he would find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq I personally 
don't have a lot of confidence that what they're saying now is true, and 
apparently they don't either, especially when there are peer-reviewed articles 
in major science journals concluding with medium confidence that the pandemic 
did not come from a lab.  

 
 > You were also off kilter regarding pharma producing Covid antagonists to 
ease the severity, as I advocated, and you poo-pooed over mere, vaccination.

I still poo poo it. Treating a Trump zombie who is dying from Covid because he 
was too stupid to get a vaccination costs many many orders of magnitudes more 
than the cost of a vaccination, and the medical resources of the planet are not 
infinite.



Then fuck tradition! I see no reason why only those who believe in an invisible 
man in the sky should have a monopoly on the words "good" and "evil". I will 
continue to use both those words when needed and do so without apology. You 
always assume that both capitalists and communists are both evil and 
mind-bogglingly stupid (such as believing that releasing a deadly pandemic 
would increased social cohesion) but you failed to explain how these evil 
entities, communists and capitalists,  remain so powerful and threatening 
despite committing so many imbecilic blunders.   

> I trusted Faucci, but Facci's statements from 2020 & 2021 seem inaccurate 
> today. 

That's because Science advances and we know far more about Covid today than we 
did in 2020 and Faucci was giving the best medical advised that was available 
at the time, but even then we knew that Trump's public statement that COVID it 
would fade away into nothing by Easter of 2020 was nonsense, not to mention 
Trump's deadly medical advice that you shouldn't get vaccinations because they 
cause autism.



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