Briefly, dealing with someone with your personality, you guys rarely change your mind despite reasonable evidence, because you need to sort thing out to fit your personality. If you discovered God or Zork the nice-boy ruler of the galaxy, you couldn't handle it sensibly. My point was that atheists will use religion if it benefits them. Atheists are no more moral nor, ethical than God worshippers, and that that kill as many people. You no like!
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2023 5:50 am Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 9:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > What about Stalin re-opening the Church's? What about it? Is Stalin's use of religion to control people supposed to make me think better of religion? > You think these boys didn't admire each other? Think again! Sure, they secretly admired each other because they had things in common, they were both brutal dictators and they both had mustaches. > They both hated Jews Yep, and that was Hatred caused by religion, the Christian franchise hated the Jewish franchise. If there was no religion there would be fewer franchises to hate. > As a supernaturalist of sorts, I can look to Caltech physicist, Sean Carroll, > and say, "what a wonderful guy," despite his atheism. I will say the same for > Frank Tipler Frank Tipler had some interesting ideas but then he got infected with the Christian religious meme and it destroyed his mind, today he's recommending that we should look for divine DNA on the Shroud of Turin and check for radiation around the tomb of the Blessed Virgin Mary that was caused by an intense beam of neutrinos that must have shot out of the bottom of her feet thrusting her upward into heaven. After that it's hard to take anything he says seriously. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis 9vd So you don't care if religion is true or not, you only want to know if it makes people happy or not. OK, I would say the answer is a big NO, at least with regard to Christianity. How can a religion make people happy that preaches that, unless you EXACTLY follow a long long list of ridiculous rules that are virtually impossible to obey, an all powerful omnipotent being that closely scrutinizes you every second of every day will torture you far more intensely than you could possibly imagine, not for a billion years, but for an INFINITE number of years. > Stalin and Mao and Adolf weren't Goddists and their death carnage seemed to > quickly say to Religion regarding deaths, "Hold my Beer!" You left out Japanese emperor Hirohito who not only believed in God, he claimed to be the son of God, and 30 million people died in the Pacific theater of war during World War II. And Stalin and Mao were atheists but the vast majority of their soldiers were not, and as for Adolph... On April 12 1922 Hitler said in a speech: "Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." On October 27, 1928 Adolf Hitler in another speech said: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity. Our movement is Christian." In yet another speech that Hitler gave in Berlin on October 24, 1933 he said: "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3z8Z9_gJOSimc3%3DDNfK-kwR14WPCMdMrEEwSnqDknPxQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1572129945.1603882.1677697272915%40mail.yahoo.com.
